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Nicholas Smith's avatar

I am very happy you shared this. It is insightful and avoids self pity. I too have only found direction through spirituality—Eastern Orthodox spirituality which incorporates stoic wisdom. It helped me reorient myself again to know in this pain and my limitations that “Even now,” I should ask,” what is wise? What is just? What is courageous? What is compassionate? What is temperate?” One other thing that’s helped me is to not have a self image. If I do the distance between who I feel I should be and what perceive myself to be like now (especially after losing control during an episode) feeds my toxic shame and suicidal thoughts. But if my focus is oriented toward what can I do now to be loving, just, prudent, and wise, it gives me motivation to go against the tide (kind of like act) and do what is necessary rather than what I feel I want and then I don’t end in crises at least as much I used to. I also noticed that me undertaking projects which I invest my self worth in trigger mania, especially when I project some future better self. Thus I try to not have a self image. This advice wasn’t mine but my spiritual fathers. He’s an abbot at a monastery.

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Siege Pegasus's avatar

The almost-paradoxical similarities and inversions of your condition vis-à-vis mine (persistent depressive disorder, AKA dysthymia) strike me in a way I can scarcely describe.

I picture a pair of waves with wildly divergent amplitudes that weave and intersect at a regular beat, passing one another at each point to gain another glimpse into the other world.

The irony is, I started off in a more bipolar-ish manner as a child, likely symptoms of ADHD and Asperger's coupled with anxiety from bullying, and then subsequently flattened by a daily regimen of SSRIs. Hence, to my hypothesis, significantly narrowing my mood amplitude to sacrifice joy in favor of preventing the most unimaginably anguished lows that you describe.

I imagine it's worth pondering, if you haven't already - if there was a drug or other plausible method of eradicating bipolar in exchange for a relatively persistent but generally dull mood...would you take it? Would you leave the devil that you know in hopes of a life that has a chance of at least proving more bearable and less chaotic overall? Or would rather stick with a life that offers the full force of human emotion in all directions, however painful it often is? This can stay rhetorical, if you'd rather.

I ask myself almost daily if I would want to switch toward something more like what you deal with, and I'm trying to recognize how foolish and how much a waste of everything it is to ruminate on that. Deal with the hand I'm dealt and focus on what I can control. The question I asked in my last paragraph arguably shouldn't be asked of anyone to begin with - especially since I have a tendency to cause offense whenever delving into these waters, and am even afraid of doing so right now.

I can see the appeal of stoicism at this point, for sure. I hope its lessons continue to guide you in a more agentic and enlightened direction. You are far from alone, including those of us dealing with very different if still-relatable conditions.

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